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STOP and learn how to ride ……
I am signing this, but, I thought we had already made it clear that rollkur was not wanted? We can yell and sign and make rules all we want, but if the governing body won’t enforce, what next? Are we willing to give up participating in events to hit them where it hurts, in the pocket?
WE MUST LOVE THOSE BEINGS, CREATURES OR HUMAN. MRS. ROMNEY, I AM SORRY THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE GOOD FEELINGS TOWARD CREATURES THAT YOU OWN. YOUR HUSBAND IS GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, AND HAS NO COMPASSION FOR THE HELPLESS.
It’s time something is done at FEI level to but and end to this cruelty to horses. That it is still allowed to ride horses in the warm up arena at shows for 10 minutes in a cranked up frame is already so WRONG! Nobody can do something about it the way horses are ridden at home but put an end to it at shows – at least this would be a start!
Just stop it! It’s cruel–take your time and lern to listen to your horse..maybe takes longer time, but you’ll get a real friend,
Overbending, hyperflexing – whether it appears forced or not should have NO PLACE (even for 10 minutes) in the training of the Horse – for whatever purpose. It is a shortcut (and a cruel and abusive one), that creates a tense and artificial way of moving, a false outline and no collection (the hindlegs do not carry, they push often from a trailing position: absolute elevation in stead of relative elevation) – this much is evident when looking at the hindlegs and angle of the pelvis, and the fact that the fore- hind-legs of the horse no longer remain parallel right down down to the hoof (not just to the fetlock) in the trot work.
Along side this loss of purity in the gaits we have canter work which no longer shows a three hoof beats – the horse is so compressed (NOT collected) that it has no choice but to canter like a rocking horse and ground the hind-leg before the fore-leg in the second phase of the gait. There is even discussion about altering the rules to make this acceptable – it has already happened for the canter pirouette…where will it stop!
I paid $17,000 to bring my horses home from Germany because of the abuse I saw to horses. My M level mare was so tense and explosive she was literally unrideable. I brought her home and am riding her in the manner I was taught by great german riders in the 1970s and she is now a joy to ride. Return to the old ways and see riding as an art not as a way to make money.
I wonder what repercussions any rulings on rollkur will have on reining, now that it also falls under FEI jurisdiction? Rollkur-style riding is essentially standard in their training (and typically used by big men with big bits on small horses).
Ride western and learn how to ride properly and bring their head down naturally. After a time the horse learns to relax and finds his own space – this practice is so cruel and all dressage riders using it should be disqualified or heavily penalised as this is not riding – it’s bullying!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON PEOPLE, LET’S SHOW ALL THOSE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE IN EQUESTRIAN SPORTS THAT WE ARE THE POWER,…..AND THAT WE WANT TO SEE BEAUTIFUL, FREE-SPIRITED HORSES THAT ARE LIGHT AND IN HARMONY WITH THEIR RIDERS, NO HUMILIATED DEAD HORSES STOMPING LIKE MARIONETTES, ……N O T IN TRAINING N O R. IN COMPETITIONS!!!! S T O P THE MADNESS OF HYPERFLEXION, LDR AND ROLLKUR!!!! HONOUR OUR BEAUTIFUL HORSES AND WHAT THEY DO FOR US!!!
It’s so wrong ):
This is insane and cruel – STOP NOW!!!!!!!!
I love it!! I think those horses have bretehad life into that young man. You are right….why not horses!!!And he and the horse are winners gathering lots of ribbons from what I’ve seen…Yep…worth every sacrifice I’d say! You are amazing!!Connie
STOP ROLLKUR/LDR/HYPERFLEXION!!!!
Everybody who does Rollkur etc. doesn’t think of the horse and its health. Why do they do it??? For unhappy horses? For this sparkle (or is it “twinkle” ) of pain in the horses’ eyes?
Rollkur, LDR and Hyperflexion are no riding styles. They are no help. They have nothing to do with good riding. They don’t mean harmony.
They just mean PAIN for the horse. The horse must always be most important. Ther is no excuse for Rollkur or anything else like this. Many people say that Horseback riding is painful for the horse. It is not – when you do it correct.
In my opinion Rollkurhas nothing to do with riding, because riding is also fun for the horse and the publicity but Rollkur isn’t.
Rollkur is pure torture! NOTHING good comes of it. It is born of ignorance and should be banned 100% in all forms, all degrees. I agree with the other comments posted, and passionately want Rollkur to be ended both officially and unofficially. My god, imagine you are the horse!!!
STOPPT ROLLKUR!
CZE – petyce ani stránky nejsou ? – CZE – petition site or not?
Discrace to the sport! Discrace to the athletes who practice and work hard to do it without abuse! This is what gives animal rights ammunition to terminate ethical practices. Don’t understand how people not playing right in badminton can be DQ but not this. Discrace! I can’t think of any other word.
This has to STOP NOW! It’s cruel, these people obviously care more about winning then the relationship with their horse, it’s sick. A horse can be such an amazing partner if your willing to put time and love into it, it’s so sad that these people tranple all over that.
Stop rollkur!!
This is an unnecessary and cruel technique used by selfish, thoughtless riders without the depth of talent and compassion necessary to work with any animal.
A quote from Colonel Alois Podhajsky – “Xenophon was the first one to claim that horses can become only more beautiful with correct training, never uglier. I would like to add to this that if the horse becomes uglier in the course of his work, it is the unmistakable proof for a wrong dressage training.” Never more true.
I sure want a explanation from Kittel and the rest of the pack , why rollkur are something you use o a horse……what is it good for==???? how cant it make a horse be better????? I realy dont think they know!
I just got finished watching the second day of the dressage qualifying round. The way the Dutch were riding their horses, and a few other riders, angered me, and the fact that the judges were scoring them so high made me even angrier. The entire test, their curbs were completely horizontal and still received 9s and 10s on their piaffe and passage. Another rider, who was not on the Dutch team, was pulling on the snaffle so much that you could see the bars of the snaffle and her horse was breathing so hard and his neck was so crunched in! But the riders that were riding wonderfully, on a loose curb and light hands and the horse’s face at or above the vertical with a nice round back, received scores 10 points lower than the heavy handed riders! Also!! Look up Patrik Kittel as someone found him using rollkur at the 2012 olympics during a workout, the FEI protected him and claimed that stewards watched everything and people cant claim anything off one picture! A picture says a thousand words! I have been very angry during these olympic games.
I am a veterinarian and amateur dressage rider – this is a disgrace to the “sport” of dressage – a travesty of what is meant to be an art – and a betrayal of the generous and noble horse. Ban rollkur and stop using euphemisms of ” hyper flexion”
The FEI need to stop making excuses for these riders and take a stand for a change. They look more cowardly hiding away trying to cover up their tracks.
Natural, talented riders don’t need to use these methods but those who cannot have to force their horses into this technique. It’s disgusting on so many levels and it’s torture. Anyone who supports it in my opinion is just as bad as the rider who inflicts it.
There’s no excuses for it. So everyone get a voice and let’s ban those sick minded people out of our sport. Your not welcome!!!
I would like to point out that in order to sign this petition I have to accept the label Mrs or Miss. This is NOT acceptable. One must be treated correctly, which means that one can sign Ms, which means BOTH of the above forms of address. I should not have to divulge my age/marriage status in order to sign a petition! This is discriminatory against women. For MANY years now the recognised forms of address for a woman have given her the option of Ms.
On a par with Mr for men. Please do not make me accept one injustice in order to protest gainst another.
As a horsewoman of many long years, it disgusts me to see the use of rollkur. What a ridiculous outline of head carriage and so terrribly cruel to the horse. If humans are not prepared to spend a long time training their horses with dedication and respect, then they should take up another sport and stop abusing noble equines.
This goes against everything good dressage should be- horse accepting the bit, on the vertical, relaxed and easy.
It’s NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Arretons de vouloir suivre des modes,!!! sans savoir les travers de ces methodes barbares!
tous les chevaux n’ont pas le caractere de certain chevaux Hollandais, et n ont pas besoins d’etre casse mentalement en faisant des detentes à 100à l heure le nez colle au poitrail et les yeux revulses,en faisant des trot arret arret trot, avant les epreuves durant des minutes interminables…..
Ces chevaux ne travaillent que sur leur energie , et des allures au trot epoustoufflantes , mais ,sans citer de noms , des pas bien souvent deteriores perdant le rythme , et sans amplitude, et des galops difficiles.+des transitions descendantes “plein bras” ou les chevaux se raccourcissent devant.
J ‘invite tous les cavaliers Francais et ceux d’autres nations , les coaches des pays en developpement , a voire et revoir ces JO,sur votre ecran,
les Anglais et les jeunes Allemandes n’ont pas besoins de Rollkur ,pour etre sur le devant de la scene , ce sont des gens de chevaux, des hommes et des femmes , qui savent respecter leur compagnon….c’est une monte avec du liant de la souplesse de l’harmonie, des chevaux qui fonctionent, avec des allures naturelles, cette connaissance de la biomecanique , , qui amene ,au mouvement specifique,cette legerete et ce sentiment de facilite qui nous seduisent tant , voilà vers quoi il faut s’orienter… et savoir se faire conseiller.
C’est à vous, les proprietaires,a savoir dire non à des solutions” court terme,”
car comme disait le colonel Saint Andre ecuyer en chef à SAUMUR,” il est plus dur de savoir retourner en arriere lorsqu’il est encore temp,…. que d eduquer un jeune cheval avec des methodes classiques,pour effectivement sur du long terme pouvoir progresser lentement,avec le soucis du bien etre de son cheval, et en faire un athleteHeureux!!!
Kathy AmosJAcob,
tuteur de coach FEI et juge I de dressage
Stop use this awful method and learn to ride a horse properly instead!!!
These people who use the rollkur method haven’t slept next to a real horseperson. GROW UP AND LEARN TO RIDE.
When does animal abuse, of any kind, end?! Why do humans do some of the stupidest, most barbaric, and inhumane things to animals–sentient beings, all–for the sake of winning some competition, entertainment, or food? For one reason only. Money. Stop, stop this horrific abuse of these beautiful horses once and for all. We must continue to be their voices.
If possible could you also change the language for the signature areas..I have people from other countries wanting to sign the petition but don’t understand “name” “email address” in English when they only know..Portuguese for instance.
This is an absolute disgrace, and therefore should be totally banned in every country. All for the sake of the rider looking good. I’m ashamed to be human sometimes these poor animals have feeling and they are very intelligent yet we treat them like this.. You wouldn’t do this to a child so don’t do it to a horse STOP IT NOW
Ban Rollkur and any form of hyperflexion. no horse ever needs to be worked in this manner to perform correctly. Look at how the well respected Philip Karl. He would never advocate this. It’s about time the dressage world became respectful
I am ALL FOR putting a stop to this but, by making people verify their email address, you are cutting down the number of signatures by a great deal. People tend to only do things that don’t require any additional work therefore, I would imagine many of them that do sign, do not take the time to verify their email address. Just an observation.
Why are all the petitions to sing not related to sout-africa i am not able to sign!!!!!!!!! And i know that photo is from cape town south-africa!!!!! Why is the law to help animal abuse not so strong in SA and only in other countrys??? I think that is bad!!! HELP PLEASE???!!!
EVERY PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS THE HORSE PLEASE REJECT THIS HORRIBLE CRUEL WAY OF TRAINING – IT IS A CRIME TO ACTUALLY CALL IT TRAINING!!!!!!!!
It is 2012 and people are doing this to animals. Perhaps the caretakers of this beautiful creatures should be placed in a box too small for about a day to see how the animal suffers. This makes me sick.
The ones who do this to animals are sadist, sick individuals that need their private parts removed and put tightly in their mouths to rot! These low life peices of shit are a disgrace to the horse industry!
HOW WOULD U XXXX LIKE TO BE DONE THIS WAY. ONE DAY U WILL AND U THINK I WOULD STOP IT NOT A CHANCE. STOP THE ABUSE ON THESE HORSES NOBODY BUT SICK PPL WOULD EVEN COME TO UR SHOWS
It’s about time this horrific act was banned !!! I can’t believe nothing has been done about it going on at the Olympics ! If people are caught doing it I say they dhould be banned from horses all together and get random checks the make sure
This method of training is absolutly appalling! There is absolutely no need for this. It is cruel and unacceptable. The horses trained in this method must dread the bridle being put on. It must stop!
How ignorant can you all be that you dont even know what Dressage really is. Youre getting behind something that doent even exist.
Barbaric practice!
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, WHO CAN DO SOMETHING SO CRUEL TO A INNOCENT ANIMAL! STOP THIS NOW! IT PROBABLY WON’T DO ANY GOOD SIGNING A PETITON,,THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP IN!
LIKE THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN. THIS SICKENS ME.
The druging of any aminal for sport is appalling. These beautiful animal look so sad. Honestly, I have never been on a horse but the beauty of the animal is amazing. What pleasure can they find in, knowing they are hurting these animals. Winning isn’t everything. If they truly loved their animals this would not be taking place, it needs to be stopped!
For those who hesitate to sign this — try jogging for 10 minutes with your chin to the chest, not being able to see where you are putting down your feet nor where you are heading, and not being able to maintain a normal breathing pattern!!
Also question what induces the relaxation in horses ridden this way — could it simply be endorphines released due to induced pain and stress rather than as it should be from loosening exercises??
As for the FEI — make sure your judges know the difference between a dressage horse moving in a real relaxed and balanced way with a syncronized moving pattern, and one that was just released from a straitjacket!!
This is by far the most inhumane thing I have ever seen. The people that do this to those poor animals should have it done to them. You people are sick. And just wait til judgement day you will surely go to he**.
Please stop such cruelty to these poor animals. How inhuman can people get! We should all boycott such events in order to make our voice heard. Don’t people have a heart or a consciece I wonder?
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing – this should be outlawed, plain and simple. I would like to use this technique on any rider who uses this on their horse(s) and see how they like it. Just for allowing us on their backs, horses deserve the umost respect , kindness and consideration. Obviously riders employing this technique have none of those qualities – all they care about is themselves and winning. Shame on you for being so selfish. I bet you treat other humans in similar ways if you can!
stop daar mee ,dit is dierenmishandelingen ,leer het dier op een zachte manier
je zal er meer resultaten mee hebben ,hoe zou jij je voelen moest het bij jouw gebeuren?